From: lra4@pge.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 99 17:20:21 CDT > Can Anyone give me descriptions of Spanish Army > Uniforms pre French Invasion, circa 1805, colors, etc, for Regulars, > troops serving in Morrocco, Marines, and Guard/Grenadiers. Also, perhaps > Regimental Names, and maybe a couple of good books with color plates ? The best easily found reference for the period you have in mind is the latest Osprey Men-at-arms #321, The Spanish Army of the Napoleonic Wars, which covers the period @ 1792-1808. There is some mention of Marines and troops in Morocco, though only one (period) illustration of the latter. Given the amount of change in uniforms over this period the terse treatment it is forced into can get confusing. Alternately, I think Haythornethwaite's Uniforms of the Penninsular War may still be available. It begins with 1808, but there is quite a lot of overlap with the Osprey title, as well as some conflicting information. No Marines or Moroccans though. Other sources include Handbook of Uniforms(not certain of the title, I do not have my books handy), Knotel, Knotel & Sieg, my edition is from 1980. It should be fairly easy to find in libraries. B&W illustartions, but you get some idea of uniform evolution. Just a short section on your relevant period. The regimental specifics are for 1808. Funcken's (sp) Napoleonic series has three plates on the Spanish army, plus regimental distinctions for 1808. This should also be fairly easy to find in libraries. Uniform descriptions - Line Infantry - unfortunately the Spanish army changed uniforms at least 4 times over the period. Most of the above sources give regimental specifics only for the 1806 uniforms. In 1805 I believe most of the infantry were wearing light blue with yellow facings, without colored distinctions they had before and after. The jacket style had semi-closed lapels similar to the contemporary French uniform (but my Knotel disagrees), and similar cuffs, but with 4 buttons. They wore bicornes, I am not sure with lace or not, plus red cockades and plumes. Gaiters were below the knee. I am not sure if the Guard also wore light blue or retained the dark blue I am sure they had before and after. If dark blue, the two Guard Regiments (Spanish and Walloon Guard) would have worn dark blue coats with red facings, probably white lace on the buttonholes, and white vests and pants. Cuffs would have been Swedish style with white lace. The 1806 uniform was white with colored distinctions according to regiment. Jackets had closed lapels, similar to the French 1812 jacket. They wore bicornes with white or possibly yellow lace. Other details remained the same. Grenadiers wore bearskin caps without plates, with a large elaborately embroidered hanging bag. Haythornethwaite has a fine illustration of this embroidery, and the Osprey has photos of a surviving example. Sappers bearskins had plates, but no reference has details on the bags on these. Undress caps were almost identical to the French in style, but I have no idea of the colors as they seem to have varied by regiment. Haythornethwaite has an illustration. In 1808 and after, at least, the undress cap was widely used in the field. Musicians uniforms were apparently all over the place. Haythornethwaite has illustrations of some based on contemporary drawings. Irish regiments either did not revise their uniforms in 1806 or retained the light blue color in the new style. Marines would have worn blue all over with red facings. The Osprey has a fine illustration of a marine at Trafalgar. The light infantry would have worn, from 1802-1807, a green hussar-style short jacket (probably never fastened), white vest and pants, a helmet similar to the British Tarleton, a red sash, and traditional hose and sandals. They would always have worn their cartridge pouch on a belt in front. The Osprey has a good illustration. Artillery would have worn dark blue all over, with red piping. Cavalry uniforms are an even more confusing subject. The Osprey does a brave job of trying to keep up with this. Also look at the illustrations in www.histofig.com/empire/uniformes - the heavy cavalry uniforms would be the same; the dragoons may have been different in 1805. Regiment names - Infantry - Rey, Reina, Princesa, Borbon, Zamora...(a whole lot of provincial names), Africa (constantly in the penninsula in this period, apparently), etc. Light Infantry - Voluntarios de Catalunia, Voluntarios de Navarra, de Valencia, etc. Cavalry - check the www.histofig site for a full list. All those regiments were in existence in 1805 There were also numerous colonial units, only a few of which are mentioned in the Osprey. Luis